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Nov 03 2006
Crazy Titch Sentenced To Life Print E-mail
Friday, 03 November 2006


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Rapper Crazy Titch, real name Carl Dobson has been found guilty for the murder of Richard Holmes, 21, along with 35 year old Anthony Green. 

Dwayne Mahorn, 25, aka MC Durrty Goodz, Mr Dobson’s half brother, was found not guilty of manslaughter.  Richard Holmes was shot dead on 4 November 2005, in Chingford East London. The Court heard Mr Mahorn complained a song by Mr Holmes’ friend, Sabar Shah, aka Shak 16, was disrespectful to him.  

Mr Shah’s lyrics said: “Over the years, things change in the hood. I used to have a lot of respect for Durrty Goodz – Not no more.” Shak refused to apologise and later that evening, Mr Holmes and some friends were surrounded by associates of Mr Mahorn armed with a Mach 10 machine gun. 

Anthony Green, of Loughton Essex and Carl Dobson, of Stratford, were both given 30 year minimum terms at the Old Bailey.




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Comments (115)add
Its a damn cycle
written by Samuel , November 03, 2006
Same shit, different country. Talented black youth with the world at his feet gets caught up in shit that does not concern him and goes to jail. When will we learn?

**sorry about the swearing**
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written by Joe Dent , November 03, 2006
Agreed, he was talented - I just doesn't make sense
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written by lisa , November 04, 2006
titch is always tryin 2 cause trouble, spittin battle wid dizzee n causes a fight! needs 2 learn, more younger people are now listenin 2 grime. great influence.
Pointless
written by Emmerson Maohney , November 04, 2006
it portays a bad view on black talent, its always 1 step forward and 2 back....when wil they learn
F* UR COMMENTS
written by KIDS IN DA HODD , November 06, 2006
FREE TITCH!
sfe
written by Paul , November 06, 2006
crazy titch had bare tings goin for him den he goes an messes his life up by doing that. He had an impressive debut in 'I Can c u, U can C Me', and a smash hit with 'singalong'. However in the UK, it seems we never learn, especially the grime artists!
Hope he Rotts- PUSSY!!!
written by Piff City E4 Bang Bang , November 06, 2006
R I P Richy Rich E4
Nuttin changes
written by I AM , November 06, 2006
Nobody's mentioned the man who got gunned down over a verse!! Crazy titch aint never had talent...never.Duurty Goodz has it in abundance.Crazy's persona and attitude got him exposure n now he's got a chace to see how crazy he really is....in the can with a bunch of real lunatics.They'll eat him alive cos he aint that REAL!Wat a fckn idiot.That said we all loose out cos this kinda ish just keeps us right where they want us.Peace
free him
written by Nick , November 06, 2006
smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/angry.gifman it wernt him hu commit dat crime i bet u it wos som fuckin nob and they set crazy up, they better fuckin free him
no more girls 4 u
written by freemanloves life , November 12, 2006
arr man what can i say....titch had talent he was nearly there but f**ked it all up smilies/angry.gif i saw him in napa had a smoke and that and he had nuff girls he will be kicking himself now because no more p**sy 4 him he aint coming out till his 53 sh*t unlucky my ni**er i will paw out a little drink 4 u when im in a club 2night R.I.P r holmes
noway man
written by dange , November 12, 2006
CRAZY TITCH-wat a great mc he was,hes thrown it all down the drain, man i wish they could free crazY T!!!!!!!!! FREE CRAZY T
We need to move on now...
written by Extacy , November 12, 2006
This crime has been commited, someone killed and someone sentenced for life, I do not condone murder, however, we need to move along...lets not forget that we have lost 2 lovers of the music industry...music is something that makes people happy...Durty is a great MC, Titch is a great MC what I mean is, instead of resorting to violence use MUSIC to portray your thoughts. One & Bless. Extacy 2006
R.I.P Richie Rich
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written by crazy bitch , November 13, 2006
i can cu u cant c me me 4 30 years crazy titch woz a stupid nigga i hope he gets raped in prison
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written by durrty goodz , November 13, 2006
crazy gunna b sucking dick in pen wid his big monkey lips i bets crying like a bitch now
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written by the whole of the uk , November 13, 2006
just another nignog off the street smilies/cheesy.gif no pussy 4 30 years ha ha ha dats wot happenz wen u think ur a badman dis aint compton u fick niggaz
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written by the whole of the uk , November 13, 2006
rip r holmes u shud not of got involved wid grime dat musics goin nowere its 4 dumb niggaz living on estates wid no talent except wiley, kano and dizzie dats 3 out of how many niggaz in da uk come on the game raps about lambos and ferraris flowdan from rolldeep raps about his transit van ill slap ne1 who listens 2 grime

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written by the whole of the uk , November 13, 2006
ne1 dat listens 2 grime came out there muvas anus cuzz ne1 can put rhymes no1 mc nomore u sound stupid have u heard dat dick flirta d n have u seen channel u i can make a better videos on my fone
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written by the whole of the uk , November 13, 2006
ne1 who says grimes about letting manz no wats going on road r snitches neting u c on road shud stay wiv u dont rap about it u snitch niggaz dont rap about it so feds find out wot u do u aint da only 1s shifted keys u dicks dats y niggaz get caught all da time

shut da f**k up
written by katy , November 13, 2006
2 da peeps dat aint brave enuff 2 put dere name on dere articles bout grime bein sh*t an it being 4 'nignogs' as peeps put it, shut up init, u dnt know wat ur talkin about....if u listen to the words of many grime tunes the mcs are articulate and imaginative, finding a useful way of expressing their feelings etc. titch was extremly talented at wat did and yeah he fucked up but people dnt need to b bad mind init, stop hating on titch! smilies/angry.gif
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written by carl , November 14, 2006
grime mcs arnt good there shit fucking 5 year olds can write better rhyymes crazy werent talented ne1 can write rhymes i know alot of people who have better lines dan crazy they dont bova coming out cuz its a waste of time no1 except no hope niggaz mc but while there wasting time thinking of verses they lose time wasting money thats y niggaz dont get nowhere in life c wot hapnd to crazy thought he woz dirty harry n ended up with no pussy 4 30 years stupid niggaz stick 2 being slaves
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written by carl , November 14, 2006
kids in the hood fuck your mumz smilies/grin.gif
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written by katy , November 14, 2006
look at titches lips smilies/grin.gif
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written by katy , November 14, 2006
hi im crazy bitch carl dobsons crackhead baby muva does ne1 no the cure to gonaria
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written by C.O.B , November 15, 2006
Oi stop running titch, ok he has done what he done (which was wrong) but he was a sick mc, not lyrically wise mentally wise. True soilder, he ran sidewinders. Free Titch
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written by Extacy , November 15, 2006
Message to the guy with the white pointy hat...you my friend are what they call a racist...Jus cos you like going to the pub everynight and beating your wife up and signing on at the doll office...doesnt mean you can hate. You are probably a sad white man who has nothing to do with his life...but it dont matter...when grime artists including myself MAKE IT...we will pay tax from our recording contracts and you can still be at home claiming off OUR money...Ha Ha...Your just a broke, whiteman whos dad probably left his mum and your mum had to Hook to put food on the table...or maybe she followed in the family tradition and...SIGNED ON!! Hang tite Boyz in the Hood, Durty Goodz. Titch-May god be with you. One & Bless...Extacy 2006
bAD bWOY
written by Crazy Titch , November 16, 2006
I saw you that time, you got beat black and blue that time,
On the mic you get slewd that time, up on that stage you get booed that time, titch ready to blow this time, making other mcs no this time, bam with my hot flow this time, i set my vocals to make doe this time.

so SHUT UP, YOU DONT WANT WAR SHUT UP, YOU DONT WANT BEEF SHUT UP, YOU'LL GET CUT UP AND MUG, DONT WANT WAR SO SHUT BRING IT TO YOUR FRONT SO SHUT UP.

bIG UP TITCH
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written by extacy , November 18, 2006
my mumz a hoe and im a grime mc i dont just spit lyrics i spit cum 2 cuzz im gay big up boyz in da hood crazy your gunna get bare dik in prison just like u did on road i suck out my own muva 2

luv extacy 2006xxxxxxxxxxxx
ps crazy ur buff
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written by Leicester Click , November 21, 2006
Free Titch Best Mc England come across yh true skeng man
BIg up Titch
FREEEEEEEEE TITCHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Come And Get Me
written by James Gordon , November 27, 2006
That about sums it up

richard fuckin holmes my arse anybody seen that shitty arse tune them mans are using to rep his rip on U?

shite
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written by Crazy Titch , November 27, 2006
old school rudeboy ruffneck soilder
now im getting older partys getting over
moneys getting bolder, i got lyrics to get them colder
f*uck that sholing older leg foot pon shoulder

Too many man love to chat sh*t and war they dont back sh*t
rudeboy hold your corner and sit its mc crazy mind your lip.

Titch in cell block 4
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written by LILSMOKES AKA LILSCOOP , November 30, 2006
smilies/angry.gifCRAZY TITCH WOZ ONE OV MA FAVOURITE MC IN DA UK GRIME HE MADE ME LYK MUSIC N GET INTERESTED IN IT BUT DEN HE BLEW IT AWAY PLZ FREE TITCH
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written by philly e10 , November 30, 2006
THE  WANTED HIM IN JAIL THEY WONT ALL BLACK GUY IN JAIL fuck the 501 aND fUCk wALTHAMSTOW COURTS!!! COZ HE WONT TELL U WHO PULLED THE TRIGGER THATS WHY HE IS INSIDE 1 LOVE 2 TGHE BLACK PUMTHERS smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gife10 e11
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written by The Don , December 10, 2006
he killed someone over lyrics, he deserves his sentance
MUG
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written by liam , December 25, 2006
noones perfect,who r we to judge..its a shame that another young guy lost his life to the streets,but its also a shame that 2 innocent people serve 30yrs for a crime they did not commit.they kept there hearts clean and stayed stronge but the system failed them.this was not a crime over lyric's,richard was no record producer(to be a producer u need to produce)(he was a known drug dealer.)he was no angel ask his mum who hides his gun!!!and the piff city boys are SNITCHES did u know they snitched on there own soilder(richy)to bust case..ask tap..hahaha
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written by crazy fam , December 27, 2006
smilies/cheesy.gif y man y mre yuts busting shots

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written by Destruction , January 25, 2007
I know der piff city bois dem and know how up-set and angery dat richie has gone. Titch deserves everything thats cumin 2 him i hope he rots in hell smilies/angry.gif
RIP Richie Piff City & Off der rack 4 life
E4 the 1 and only
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written by dats dat , January 25, 2007

Crazy titch is a DON.
written by creeper , February 02, 2007
Talk about life in prison dey al start shackin... ragges 15 years each man shuold just push weight and wait to hot road he should go belmarsh dats pennz raw he learn and make loads of doe from der. 1.
NO.1 Grime Rapper
written by Druvz , February 03, 2007
FREEEEEE TITCHHHHHHHHH!!!!
talkin shit
written by e4 , February 04, 2007
dont chat about free titch let him rot! man KILLED sum 1 das da end of it!!! E4 BANG BANG
BLACKS
written by SPANOUT TITCH , February 18, 2007
BLACK POWER! TITCH HAS SMALL WANG! smilies/angry.gif
STOP HATIN
written by ::::...$W!FTY...:::: , March 23, 2007
u haterz stop hatin crazy titch u pussys hes one of tha best grime rappers eva!!! blesss E6 AND E13 BRAAAP!!!
u lot r dum and da courts it wasnt crazy t sum1 set him up and he knows who it is but titch is not a snitch he says this even in his lyricks freeeeeeeeeeee crazy titch he is da besst freee him
written by mrt e2 , March 25, 2007
smilies/cry.gif smilies/cry.gifu lot r dum and da courts it wasnt crazy t sum1 set him up and he knows who it is but titch is not a snitch he says this even in his lyricks freeeeeeeeeeee crazy titch he is da besst freee him
Dont Free That Prick
written by James , April 02, 2007
Man killed someone over some pathetic shit! what a loser! Hes a stupid animal, lock him up, throw away the key. I dont think anyone making comments is hat'in. Hes a dick!!!!!!! People biggin him up are dumb as he is!!
wat a man does 4 a brother
written by mc tunestar , April 05, 2007
on da real people can hate people can feel sorri but then again crazy onli has himself to blame ya think his brother is thinkin shit he in jail is he fuk his brother think shit im glad i didt go jail buyt still crazi was makin his way threw the ukscene but nuff love at crazi man he be out in 30 yrz it aint all dat bad lol still be makin tracks wen he 53 man its all love stop the guns and killin people repersent ya music man it aint about jail keep ya head hold high crazi peace -1-
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written by jd , April 05, 2007
safe wag1 titch geh me you woz big don so y go fuck it all up i can see you stil dark ridem wen bunin weed now
but stil i rekon if ya get let out soon enough u be makin dem ridems again i mean y fight ova music it dumb
shit buh anywayz stay blesd man and ope u change 1x
silliness
written by jay , April 15, 2007
dis is all a hype!! if crazy did lick shots at richard den he was just caught in the hype 4 a second, until he realised that he jus merkd someone, then reality hit him... shit man....30 years-pisssst!! wot u gonna do in pen 4 30 yrs?? thats his whole lifa all over again, plus an extra 7 years...screwin.. murderers usually get 23 hour lockdown and are allowed out for 30 minutes daily....pistttttttttt!!! thats gonna happen 4 30 long years....pissssssst boiii!
faggot
written by eddie , April 17, 2007
"You are probably a sad white man" how the f**k can you call somone racist then say whiteman you wanker, fact is yeah a few artists are gonna pay a shitload of taxes, but the other 99.5% of you are still on the doll white or black, crazy got where he was in the scene cos of his attitudes, had some good lyrics but who doesnt, at the end of the day what got him far in lyrics got him locked up 2, dont it make you wonder he aint snitchin so hes goin down, and the "rudeboy" that pulled the trigger aitn saying nuffin, props to crazy for bein a decent mc and keepin hsi mouth shut but at the same time it tells u all 2 watch the company u keep
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written by evil wayz , May 27, 2007
man dat big no wot happened. titch u big fuck dem wasteman. free titch
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written by SN15 Souljah , May 28, 2007
y r all u mandem actin like this kind of ting neva happens?? all these MCs spittin sayin they get into shootins n tingz but titch is 1 of the only real mcs u get me!! standard u neva allow man beef u on a track thats juss askin to get murked

Free Titch
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written by Mucky Malone , May 30, 2007
yeh passin tru; makin moves in da game dis yr, 4real. no long, no prizoners. check my myspace for new tunez and also 4 pics of me raping a hen
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written by nasir , June 03, 2007
blud crazy titch wud merk any mc
dnt noe hu takin him 4 a bitch hold tite crazy
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written by E4 , June 04, 2007
R.I.P Richy rich E4 bang bang
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written by Blunt , June 05, 2007
just goes to show when the lines blur between road hype and music hype shit gets messy...all TRUE uk representers should know the score and keep both seperate. I rated titch but now i know he's just another sucker that is so worried about his rep that he ends up in pen...what a waste.
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written by Matthew , June 08, 2007
Free titch dont make me laugh.You cant go round shooting people for ne bull shit plaistows better off without him.
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written by crazy titch , June 13, 2007
what he done is wrong just leave it at that he knows what hes done . so theres no point in all this bitchy talk its been and done OVER
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written by Toppa Toppa , June 13, 2007
Lets not get carried away.He wasn't very good was he,with his nonsensical,undistinguishable singalongs.
A lack of discipline has put him where he is today.

"The Rap life" - Don't make me laugh.Innit

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written by mc zakman , June 18, 2007
U SHUD FREE CRAZY TITCH MAN HE IS DA MAIN MAN!!!!
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written by ERM , June 23, 2007
F*CK the racists who making comments. Titch made good music but hes a idiot for killing someone over music. But just cause he made that comment doesnt mean people should insult him by calling him a stupid n*gger. Being racist like that is just as stupid as him killing a man over lyrics.
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written by Talent Scout!! , June 25, 2007
I CAN SEE YOU .. YOU CANT SEE ME . ( well for 30yrs anyway!!)

no remorse for dis brudda way too much talent too have shot a yout just do a mixtape like how u rinsed dizze..!!

respect yah talent but what a BONE HEAD!!!!
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written by lee watts aka 1000 watts berkshere , June 25, 2007
crazy is the sickest ever he ant a grass he dident he took the rap for the hole thing true bad man braaatttttttt
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written by Reece , June 28, 2007
Man FREE TITCH!!!! he has got bare tallent and cant use it and wtf are all dem d**k heads on bwt writin comments bwt grime is S**t and dat. SHUT UP U DONT KNW NOTHIN! CHAT S**T and all the racist C**TS. im white but i giv him respect hes got tallent i bet u cant spit at all so SHUT IT!!! sfe titch dnt take shit in jail
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written by rat boy , June 28, 2007
big up craszy tich bang bang he told dizzie he was a crasy man he lucky he aint gone
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written by K , June 30, 2007
RIP GRIME time 4 sutin new
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written by James , July 01, 2007
smilies/undecided.gif Fuck me, crazy was my fav mc n im from Chingford E4 n i no ppl dat were Richie's best freinds so fuck titch, he had it all n its his own fult e's doin 30 yrs. ur sposd 2 scare ppl wit guns n say ur strapd, not shoot sum1 wen its got nothin 2 do wit 'im! wot a muppit!!
RIP Richie Rich!
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written by sonia , July 02, 2007
nobody knows who did what and who are we to judge, two people have lost thir lifes. gun crime needs tackling and time needs to go on. i personally dont think titch did it.
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written by ASS KID , July 21, 2007
crazy titch wasted his life he did wat he had to do but now will spend the rest of his life behind bars his music took him no where he should have got a nice education but he iz no g roadside g's wud eat him alive by de way its CHOSEN ONES RUNNING TINGS AND WE DONT GET CAUGHT UP IN BULLSHIT

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written by James , July 22, 2007
Big up titch....listen to "A letter to Tich" by durrty goodz on his new albulm...can get it on i tunes..explains abit.
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written by James , July 22, 2007
"A letter to titch"..spelt it wrong
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written by peter andre , July 22, 2007
police need more powers to take these wannabe wanksters off the street think they from america killing innocent people for no reason i say call in the planes and carpet bomb the wannabe wanksters???no just blacks but whites asian everyone who takes anyones life just cause they get angry hang em in town center
dickheads
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written by DMARK , July 26, 2007
snitch or no snitch, doing 30years for a next man is long, tell the truth Titch, it's not worth it.
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written by EastBADMAN E4 E17 E10 , August 03, 2007
RIP Richie, The only guarantee in life is death- the good die young. Miss u blud.
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written by urnana , August 04, 2007
i like crazy titches song jus an asshole ahahaha funny.. well about the sentence.. he deserved it suk shit ahahaha
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written by urnana , August 04, 2007
it serves him rite.. for getin into shit.. wen even he knows deep down he shouldnt cuz heez in the music industry but no he had to fuk up
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written by dange , August 04, 2007
smilies/cool.gif smilies/cool.gif no way man he didnt do it i was there trust, crazy titch needs 2 b freed he was a ill MC
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written by Halo , August 07, 2007
I jus clocked now that Crazy got life , i'm late lol.

But dat's sad still.
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written by pacman , August 09, 2007
(Nobody's mentioned the man who got gunned down over a verse!! Crazy titch aint never had talent...never.Duurty Goodz has it in abundance.Crazy's persona and attitude got him exposure n now he's got a chace to see how crazy he really is....in the can with a bunch of real lunatics.They'll eat him alive cos he aint that REAL!Wat a fckn idiot.That said we all loose out cos this kinda ish just keeps us right where they want us.Peace)

bruv y u beggin it 4, the kids a fukin headcase hes bin merkin heads inside, r u dumb.
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written by Durrty Difference , August 16, 2007
Where to start... At the end of the day everybody has their own opinion on Crazy whether he is "Hot or Not" It really doesn't matter. Personally I think he is an excellent MC, but I also think he's really stupid for putting himself into that kind of position. But if any of you do have respect for him an think he's a decent MC then you need to stop acting so childish an making out all his supporters/fans are ignorant, childish s.o.b's. An for those who are slaggin' him off, you're entitled to your opinion but don't be turning it into a HATE CAMPAIGN because otherwise you're disrespecting "Richard Holmes". Show either way, show the entire page some respect. I hope Crazys case is resolved as I assume its still open an hope Richard can RIP.
Take note people an pull your socks up
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written by platty coventry , August 16, 2007
crazy keep ya head up man, keep rollin soldier
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written by Unknown , August 22, 2007
Crazy hope ur kl yh. Gully mc
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written by mr hazer , August 26, 2007
bring crazy back music and da same now blud

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written by 11:11 , August 27, 2007
11:11 law of attraction
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written by tizzle , August 31, 2007
stnadard he was sick, but as some peeps say theres allot of shit heads in grime who chat shit but if you listen to guys like... Purple, L.MAN u can tell it aint all shit! unluky crazy
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written by jess , September 03, 2007
you are nice . i like you can i see you
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written by TERRAH1 , September 21, 2007
yeah yeah! titch was a badbwoy and a BIG mc but its obvious he should never of got involved in that situation that caused him to be in the position that he is in now!shit happend and he got shift 4 something that really werent his fight anyway...a real WASTE OF LIFE..but you know he regrets it everyday now sittin in jail and that is punishment enough in its self..shabby.
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written by stonefish , September 21, 2007
i wondered why i haven't herd him in time, only gust realized!! cuple of years late i guess. i must admit iv never liked the kid or rated him 2 highly on the mic. it always seemed that he would cum ought with average rimes and supplement skill shouting.its pretty deep still though. he's a fool
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written by 2much , September 22, 2007
All you 'badman' that wanna rap or talk like your big out here all you that dress like your drug dealers and
act like you got your money through crime, he was one of only few that lived his words that was his energy on the mic and it stood out, dont be surprised this happened i bet he aint. Anyway we gotta move on from this and start being real! Titch has found a different path he's converted to Islam. peace
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written by Blacks , September 27, 2007
I can c u but u cant see me for 30 years lmao who ever sed that thats cold bruv!
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written by ...hawko... , September 27, 2007
FREE TITCH BIG MC, HOLDTIGHT BRAPP

BIGG UP THE BOYZ IN DA HOOD!

BIGG UP THE KIDZ IN DA HOOD!

U DUN KNO

FREE TITCH

BRAP!


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written by Unlucky my son! , November 14, 2007
Who are all these idiots saying 'Free Titch'.....what an idiot....he deserves everything he got....
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written by The Truth , November 16, 2007
Couldn't they have just replied to his verse with lyrics instead of guns? I mean... all they had to do was make an answer back song dissing him.
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written by serious , November 22, 2007
i dont even know why im leaving a comment , but i read a few and alot of you all seem diluded. if u dont like grime then dont listen to it simple.if u do like grime, come on dont be stupid how can u say free a murderer just cos u like his bars. get real what if it was ure family he shot. too many waste mans around includin u priks leavin stupid comments. educate yourselves before letting people hear your opinions or no one is goin take u seriously.
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written by wtf happend , December 01, 2007
no one even knows what happend so anything u say is just talk, what if it wasnt him that done the killing, yeah he was a crazy bastard but that doesnt meen hes a killa, where is the evidence anyway, i bet he was only sentenced cos of his reputation as a crazy arsed breda, the system didnt like the man full stop. They dont like grime full stop, infact theyre scared of it, scared because of what it could become, a credable voice. Anyone that says grime is useless is fukin blind. Titch was unique, a star, his loss is musics loss. FREE TITCH!
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written by hold it ar kid , January 16, 2008
low it 30 yrs
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written by MC Bengali Bob , January 23, 2008
Yeah yeah yeah... Tizzle always safe wit E3 bengal cru... we gonna miss ya blud, Napa wont be the same without you
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written by big up titch , January 23, 2008
Big up titch man, no1 had persona, attitude and charisma like u.
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written by the person who wrote this , February 01, 2008
smilies/angry.gif
please do no swear on this it is BAD
naughty naughty lol
wtf
smilies/shocked.gif smilies/sad.gif smilies/cry.gif smilies/kiss.gif smilies/undecided.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/shocked.gif smilies/sad.gif smilies/angry.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/smiley.gif
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written by purpose , February 01, 2008
I honestly feel sad when i think of this incident. One, because my heart goes out to all those people who loved all of these young boys involved and two because of the effects society has had on this individual. Yeah theres a great awareness of what he did was wrong but i feel more concerned that there was a young boy allowed to grow up into the person he was, and although everyone has their own mind, i am a conscious believer as a young black person myself, that society has a GREAT part to play in the way these so-called 'black boys' behave. The truth is i have love for them all regardless because i try to have that greater understanding of how influences such as marginalisation, frustration to make it and many other factors literally fuck some of them up! I see it, hear it, feel it EVERYDAY and it breaks my heart to see how the government sit back and watch as various societal systems they put in place such our UK dampened down version of the projects....council estates....such as the drug dealing and other systems designed to ultimately help us as black people to fail.

Sorry to go on and on,but put it this way...

You are a young beautifully-gifted black boy at primary school...what do u experience....you get told from young you are a delinquent simply because the teacher puts a stereotype on u...then u hit secondary school and because no one bothers to correct this negative label put on u from young, u think fuck it...i'll be bad...and wot happens?? THERE WE HAVE THE PRODUCT the government work soooo hard to make...i mean we see it everyday on the news..."a black youth has been found guilty of murder" HELLO....u think the guns fall from the sky?? u think our black boys grow up wanting to kill their people??

Its time for people to open their eyes and the government need to KNOW that all their karma will be coming soon....its a universal law...wot u put it, u get out and they fucked over black boys...watch wot they're gona get out.

xBlessx
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written by purpose , February 01, 2008
it proper breaks my heart to look extreme innocence in the face of a potential killer...all because he level of thinking was not corrected.
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written by dont matter , February 14, 2008
who ever wrote the comment above you have some valid points but you cant blame environment and the way you grow up for killing people and being a "meanace to society" i have been brung up on a council estate in peckham with f...ing parents for crack heads forr all the s..t i do i would never blame others so stop making sorry excuses.

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written by dont matter , February 14, 2008
i should also bring to your attention that all creeds and colours not just black people are affected by the points you made about the goverment but would never use that as a weak excuse for an individuals actions
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written by SHAMOUS , February 18, 2008
BEST MC IN DA GRIME .. BARSEE MAN!!!
SINGALONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FREE TITCH!!!!! smilies/grin.gif smilies/cool.gif
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written by samplez , February 18, 2008
samplez smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by samplez , February 18, 2008
FREEEEE TITICH ! >:
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written by guilty consious , February 18, 2008
He deserves what he got, it fucking pisses me off when these want to be gangsters think that the law dont mean shit. we're not in gangland america we;re in da uk... these people black/white/ or whatever any race who think they can beg to be a gangsta and go and shoot someone should be put away and the key thrown away. still
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written by clifty , February 19, 2008
big up titch hold tight!
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written by dizzle , February 19, 2008
does any1 know true story bout crazy and what happened that day.. ive read 5 different news articles and none of them say he actually shot and killed richard holmes.. so why he get sent down for straight murder???
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written by L DOT , February 25, 2008
RIP RICHARD HOMLES
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written by IceT , March 02, 2008
You know what hurts me the most? The fact that somebody was killed in all this, yet many of you are blindly calling for Crazy's release. Do you have no shame?

R.I.P rich
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written by missin u always , April 04, 2008
Xrip richieX

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written by mike , May 28, 2008
crazy second 2 no-one!
free titch!
peace
x
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written by he who lives in glass house....... , May 29, 2008
far too much hate and fictious nonsense on here for real!!! Crazy was charged with murder yet the judge himself said according to news reports "even though we can’t say who fired the fatal shots…" "Holmes met a chilling and unnecessary death."

RIP R.Holmes

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written by Ben , June 26, 2008
Grime scene misses titch big time, no uk m.c touches him! wish he'd put an album out! his style was different, but if he did it then he deserves all hes getting....and if he didn't like the reports suggest then thats just f***ked up and a waste of talent!
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written by Buckaroo , July 01, 2008
fuk knows wat hapend dat day. dere always 2 sides 2 a story, everyting happens for a reason, but itz still sad.
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written by Greg , July 02, 2008
Buckaroo,

Everyone knows what happened that day. It was laid down in a court of law.

Carl Dobson received a minimum prison sentence of 30 years. Grime will be long forgotten, and all grime music's fans will be parents, or, most likely, grandparents, by the time he is released.

I don't think that is something he has even considered, in his ruthless killing of a boy who 'disrespected' him.

Well, he's got plenty of time to reflect on that, as he goes through youth, middle age, and enters his elder years, before he's let out...

Carl, I hope you can come to peace with yourself for your actions.
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