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    All i'd say is that Most of the u.k artists that pioneered Grime all grew up listenting to Us rappers!

    Simply before lil jon and soulja boy you had rakim, public enemy, mos def at that time hip hop wasn't the money game it is now. It's a simple case of evolution when something becomes big then new faces turn up trying to get there cut. It's happened in america and what ever happens in america will happen in the u.k look at the credit crunch!

    Grime's got it's individuality now but the bigger and better it gets the more likely there'll be a newthread about Grime.

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    Basically Yeh Grime is its own ting 2 many people get it mixed up with hip-hop and call it british hip-hop, it aint dat. They use there own accent Urban english black talk. Like how da black mandem in US talk like u get me.

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    Correct me if i'm wrong on this but from my experience, the UK scene seems to be more about making good music whereas the US is all about image and all of the stuff that comes along with being involved with it? Dont get me wrong, there is some good coming from the US but i feel there is more coming from the UK.

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    Im sorry but this is just ridiculous. I know this thread is REALLY old, but reading these comments is just making me laugh. You brits are saying that your grime is REALER than our rap? LOLOL if this thread was on a u.s. forum it would be laughed at. Our rappers rap about WAY realer $$$$ than you brits. Yall don't even have a crack problem. Yall don't even have a gun problem. Over half of yalls "grime" artists are $$$$ing whiteboys. And you say yall flow about REALER $$$$? HAHAHA get the $$$$ outta here. Nobody outside of britain/europe even follows grime. Meanwhile kids in Africa who don't even speak english know who our rappers are.
    HAHA i stil can't get over the part where you idiots say yall flow about more real $$$$. hahahahaha yall wouldn't last a day in the hoods of the u.s.
    And how many top international albums have any grime artists put out???? hmmm....
    Yes, our rap is a lot commercial, but thats cause you idiots don't know all the underground $$$$.
    Ive seen battles with you grime artists and i can't even tell what the $$$$ theyre saying.
    Sorry but flowing with a british accent just doesn't go together. You all sound like homosexuals. Im not just saying that, yalls accent ACTUALLY sounds homosexual. Doesn't go good with flowing. Sorry.

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    Comes down to talent, industry investment and power of the individual to be able to keep the strength and headstrong attitude needed to break through. UK grime/rap is having a great time at the moment, some people may say it;s sold out to a degree but the dutty stuff is still out there.

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    Grime guys can do rap easy! Wiley is back and he can do it!! check out the article in the Guardian with the vid link to his new track.
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    I think Uk Grime artists like Tinie , Giggs , Wretch 32 , Tinchy all leave grime & jump for Hip-hop thats aall why grime is less known

    ---------- Post added at 03:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:50 PM ----------

    Btw i am gay
    & yet Grime stands better than US Hip-hop

    anytime any day

    & sorry but Grime is not gay but it gives chances to gays as well
    Hip-hop is sick like D*ck
    Homosexuals are considered zilch but i swear UK Grime female emcees like shystie , No Lay are way better than US Kanye West , T.I. & wiz khalifa they are more powerful with flow & rhymes

    US hip-hop has no meaning infact all they speak of is wealth , F words , anti-homo words , crap rhymes & nonsense lyrics

    UK Grime kills hip-hop any any any & i mean anytime

    Muah

    & i am gay not white nor black but Indian(asian) so its very unbiased

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    Grime gals can kill male hip-hoppers
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    The demographics of the UK music scene are more formulated I feel to US. You have to follow the formula of having fake/dubsteppy track, romantic song, collaboration with someone else. Basically you have to play the game. The underground is swarming with talent, artists and producer wise, but the chances of it reaching mainstream over here is limited.

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    Grime is bringing in a lot of talented mc's which are then developing into artists and breaking out into the mainstream. Grime is the uk's take on hip hop

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    I have to say that US rap is a lot better

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloRedStar View Post
    Yes its time for another one, but lets try n keep it smart now, no " US rap is wikide wikidie wack yo! " N crap like that

    On the comerecial side of things, US rap is on a whole other planet.

    But on versitility, i think the UK scene wins hands down, the most succeseful UK MC's all have their own sound, and you can tell who is who by listenin to a song with loads of different people on it.
    as for US rappers, i feel they all tend to sound the same, and no one is trying to break barriers to sound different to change the game.

    As for work load, both equally have to work hard to get to the top, for Grime, its especially hard to get heard, for a new type of sound that is comming up, people dont want to take risks on playing it incase it turns out to be a total flop.
    thats why the only real person to be heard is Dizzee rascal, other MC's have videos on channel U but where else?

    Ask an everyday person who dizzee rascal is, they will probally know who he is, ask em who leathal B is, they probally wouldnt have a clue what your talking about.

    and then after that, when they do get played in the UK, they feel they have to get heard in the US, like dizzee rascal did, and he got air.

    And as for americans, well, their scene is so big that they really need to work hard to get played, thats why i think they need to come up with new styles, but then, because the US is so commercial and money based, its a slim to none chance that a label will take a risk on a new style like they would over here.

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    Define "UK". The kids in London have done well creating their own scene, its by them & for them, but other than students from London up north......

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