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This is a discussion on No battling skills ?....look here ! within the Open Mic forums, part of the The Studio category; Originally Posted by Sy-Clops nah the kid got on my nerves so its my turn now....show him how it was ...
Y HAVE U GOT TO KEEP GOIN ON N ON DROP IT WILL YA U WAS AS BAD AS ME
Not many UK emcees can adapt into an American style of rhyme and flow..it's what seperates rap from grime and MC Wiley, Dizzy Rascal etc. Mono-syllable rhyming is too common in Grime and the UK flavor of rap, which is why I prefer the less mainstream, and more true Hip Hop choice. Those artists you gave examples of are all good rappers, but move out of the main-stream a little. Immortal Technique, AZ, Nas..mayebe a little Royc da 5'9". Check those guys out.
I'd up a multies tut but..lol
Last night i was listening to some local mc's, and you have to notice every mc has his own different style of making words ryme.. anyway i was listening to some mc's and i thought about the way they used the words, and i tried freestyling by using there sort of style by making 1 word in every sentence ryme, and i can imagine in a battle you could use it to your advantage, like this i just made up while typing this:
So u wanna battle,
Ill make your jaw rattle,
you cant step up to my rap game,
your just another target in my shooting range,
Say my name in a song n u get blamed,
Wanna test me u get claimed,
You'll get owned ill break every1 of your bones.
etc lol :P
LOL, i listened to some of that "scouse house" what mc p posted.. honestly thats a poor form of mc'ing.. its just rubbish theres no talent there "im single ready to mingle ill eat your $$$$$ like a pringle your dads second name is dingle" LOL trash... Real Mc's are like Dizzy, Wiley, Kano, Devilman , Skepta, Ghetto and other Mc's from smaller citys like the Bradford boys and Ls7 battlers, they are real mc's!
Watch this :
proppastuff lol :P
Last edited by GJK; 06-05-2008 at 02:39 AM.
ive got an important 1
VOICE:make sure u dont use ur everyday voice u maybe want to make ur voice abit deaper or dryer NEVER LIGHTER.if u thnk uve got a good everyday voice use it..well i change my voice abit by makin it deaper.
NAME:makesure ur name isent sumthin original like mayhem like cuz there used all over the world.say if ur name was carl parsnip id be sumthin like c dot p or c2p i reccomend c2p..
ive got an important 1
VOICE:make sure u dont use ur everyday voice u maybe want to make ur voice abit deaper or dryer NEVER LIGHTER.if u thnk uve got a good everyday voice use it..well i change my voice abit by makin it deaper.
NAME:makesure ur name isent sumthin original like mayhem like cuz there used all over the world.say if ur name was carl parsnip id be sumthin like c dot p or c2p i reccomend c2p..
Be Ya Self be Original An Dont Peep Other Katz Lyrics Because They Might Wind Up In Your Rhymes..use Ya Imagination An Dont Be Afraid To Be Different
best tip i got...
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he's just tryin to help people that can't mc, so just give him a break man
i agree wiit u girl
these tiiipz have helped me alot yea ii can spit and dat but i never been able to freestyle never had the confidence but naw iil giiv iit a pop
bless =]
If you wanna learn to freestyle then do it everyday, doesnt matter how sh!t it comes out, just spit, put a track on and rhyme over it. Talk about things in the room and see if you can rhyme off that, if you can get any metaphors in even better.
Even more important than that, read. Read a lot, read anything and everything inspiration comes in many forms, you can read a news story and one word in there could set you off. Anything you dont understand look up in a dictionary, we live in a time of internet so theres no excuse anymore, I used to keep a dictionary with me and usually keep one installed on my phone nowadays, if you are going to use a word make sure the word and the context are right or you look dumb trying to be intellectual.
Watch a lot of movies, not just action, things with story's any film you've heard about a few times is probably a good start, usual suspects is good, you will have heard a lot of lyrics about kaizer soze, scarface, godfather, etc not all of these will help with bars, but these are films a lot of people have seen so the metaphors yuo make from them people will get, no point having a sick bar about a film 10 people have seen, and you know 8 of them.
I personally spend about 80% of my day listening to music, either absorbing the music, the lyrics or rhyming to myself. Try and have deep conversations with people, if your conversations rarely go past which car is the nicest or which girl has the biggest ass then your lyrics arent going to get past that level either.
Listen to some actual lyricists, you might not like some of them, fine skip them and find ones you like. Personally I like Fabolous - punchlines are crazy, Joe Budden and Saigon - both good story tellers, Budden is obscene but can be dark and depressing, suits me fine but not everyone, three sides to a story is good but i cant listen to the last verse no more, anybody can get it is good saigon as well if you want song suggestions let me know. Other artists
Ransom
Joell Ortiz
Royce Da 5'9
50 Cent (pre shady days)
Eminem (pre-aftermath at most up to his second album)
For battle's:
Jin (dont rate him that highly tho tbh)
Serius Jones
Jae Millz
Murda Mook
Juice
Supernatural
Sway ( i think thats his name but he battles the next person - youtube is your friend)
Wordsmith
If you wanna be good, absorb everything, in general writing try and go beyond the 1st level metaphor of just comparing a to b, try and go deeper or use some metaphors that have double meanings, cant think of examples right now but listen to Budden, Fab, or Sai and you will pick some stuff up.
Some good saigon tracks I like:
I know
Hood Life
In A Mess
Not all of them are deep lyrically sometimes the flow or a couple lines where the wordplay was amazing or the imagery or they just made a link in a way that surprised me.
The main things you should take from all this is
1. Be yourself, I totally disagree with making your voice deeper. Do whats comfortable and what you think sounds nice, if you spit with a higher voice then most then spit that, just be the best out (which should be your aim regardless)
2. Absorb everything, tv, cinema, books, radio, newspapers, otehr rappers, other genre's. You dont know where inspiration will come from. Think of all the rappers that will talk about something in physics, or other science, that doesnt come from p!ssing about on road all day laughing with your mates. General knowledge is very important.
I personally think you know when you have reached a decent level, when you are quick witted for one and will randomly throw in metaphors in normal conversations - not anything to do with spittings its just that you can make that link a lot quicker and better than the average.
Stay focused, I personally used to wake up at 9, go to college, spit at lunch, during the day, after college, cypher in the park, random battles cos someone wanted to test, bus rides, writing down any bar that came in my head so later i could incorporate it into another lyric or maybe change it into something better and then when i finally did get home, a lot of nights I spent up til 3/4 in the morning listening to music and just writing before starting it all over again the next day.
Dont matter if it turns out good, you might write one line thats hot in a pile of garbage but that line can be used in a different lyric, just keep the juices flowing and you will get better.
Also writtens lead to freestyles, the more bars you have and the more links you have set up the better your freestyles can be, seriously if you havent seen Juice freestyle, you are missing a lot, wake up show freestyle and the one in the car are probably the best freestyles I have ever seen. In fact watch Freestyle: The Art of Rhyme, that will open you up a bit. And if anyone needs the wake up show freestyles, send me a PM and ill start getting it out to people, think i have 8 or 9 albums worth.
Last edited by kd0t; 25-09-2009 at 04:09 PM.
whts all da hype on dis thread about blad?
blad u will get battered on roads,
u chat $$$$ about sex but u aint got hoes,
blad carry on and ill break ur nose,
an ill lay u spark out from my 1-2 blows
any man will get laid out,
ill run switch and make ur mum pay out,
ill give her a curfew, she not allowed to stay out,
theres two signs on the roads an u shud take the way out
Open Mic nights in Bristol Hey everyone, where are you guys based? I find it hard reading words on a screen as music because there are so many ways lyrics can be performed. I attend open mic nights in Bristol regularly and just wanted to shout out if anyone fancied meeting up for a beer and a friendly battle of rhymes?
Peace.
wiz kid now shut the f*ck up talkin bout each others mums thats just lame
cos im dagz,
and my barz hurt like 20 stabz,
straight into ur heart,
as i keep on goin im rippin u apart,
me and b-dup together we smart,
nothing or anyone can tear us apart,
im at the top of the rap bar chart,
im not big headed im big hearted,
i belive in my self im no loser,
when it comes to girls mate im not user,
when im spitin my barz fam im da cruser,
any race i enter i come out winin,
all ur barz i end up binin,
im like ronaldo in this rap cos im skinin,
n-i-g-g-ah u post tht already O.o
He'sz been delt with already check out the Bars For Freestyle Thread.
Anyway, enough random's dropping bar's, But nobody signing up for the tournament, whats up with that?
king dont make me show u up aswell,
when i spit barz to u you gunna yell,
screamin 4 help as i just jabed u in ur heart,
with my sharp spit art,
you come across me as sh!t lines i come across as smart,
as im top of this bar chart,
dont laughth dont fart,
when im on the mic,
plz dont interrupt as i might give u a fright,
when i spitten,
i say listen to the stuff ive written,
im now listen to the stuff ur've bitten,
so shut up,
befor i reach for my pen, then wipe u up,
i'll reach 4 da gun snipe u up,
ive murked u up,
and then down,
prob thinkin other way round,
but mate i hear no SOUND !,
1 Bar Death
Get hostile-with-geeks/
Tear his eyeballs out and have him 'holding his face'
like 'counting down' in *hide-and-seek*/
LOL 3 BAR OWNAGE BUT STILL...daggz..i have 2 give it 2 him for tht 1
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