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Hobsons Choice, "the real story"


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Old 13-05-2002, 02:18 PM   #1
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I'm fed up with this $$$$ so i am gonna tell you all the real story from how it really is.

I've had studio equipment since i was a kid coz my dads a guitarist and thats how i learned how to use all the $$$$.

ive known Kin since playschool, his mum is good friends with my mum etc.. etc..

miles on the other hand was introduced to me through kin when we were about 17. At this time kin and miles had never made any tunes before but we all had our own shows on flex fm 103.6 . mine was saturday night 10-12ish, kins was weekday primetime if i remember and miles was 5am sunday morning if i am correct.

anyway, miles and kin brought over the hobsons choice vocal as acapella to my house and we started messing around with it at this stage we were all producing it as a team, i wasnt engineering $$$$ for anyone, except for the fact that kin and miles didnt know how to use any of the equipment, they were just watching and learning.we were just chopping about 25 seconds of the vocal and programming some simple 2 step drums. we had about 50 seconds of the track created in demo foramat when we finished the session and the boys went home..

After that i kept calling miles and kin on their phones to say come back round and finish the tune off coz i knew it had potential and it would have been unfair for me to finish the track without them, but miles had alot of $$$$ on and was telling me that he wasnt feeling the track that much anyway. and kin was just like, nah lets lowe it and move on to somthing else, so i was like "kool". and thats what we did... 6 months later, i was working with redz and jimmy in slammin vinyl studio's doing some in house production and setting up and running a label called klub kuts.... so i was flicking through some of my old akai disks and i came across the hobsons choice vocal... and reds was like"that track is hot man, lets work on that" so thats exactly what we did. we sat down , deleted the old drums that I had programmed with miles and kin, and programmed some new ones but kept the sweeping pad arrangement, we then arranged the track and mixed it down, took about 5 days... Sarah from the dreem teem came down to the studio and was like, thats hot, lemme give them a copy, the next day it was being played on radio... then we had a press booked in for two days and Jimmy was telling me that the one mix wasnt enough for the press, he wanted a darker mix of the record... so at 2am reds and i went back into the studio and bashed out the dark mix with our eyes half open, came out at 6am with the dark mix on DAT TAPE and the track went to press... we then pressed 500 to see how it would do , thats when i told miles and kin about it and they were kool with it... they asked me for copies to play on their radio shows and i gave them both copies of the track........ so anyway a few months later when it really blew up, i heard miles was going around saying that i had ripped him off for it but Kin was kool about it and still to this day has always been cool about me redoing the record, Me and kin are still good friends and still see eachother ... i guess its just one of those things.

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Old 13-05-2002, 02:28 PM   #2
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Life I guess... check your email JJ
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:30 PM   #3
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if this miles really did produce what is arguably the best classic (not my opinon just heard nuff peeps say how amazing it is) why hasn't he been making some massive fuss over it before now??
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:33 PM   #4
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yeah i checked my email hun.. thanks hehehe, gotta laugh! =)

gambit, i dont know. kin seems to have got his head down and making some hot beats... so i dont know...
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:34 PM   #5
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sounds like a bit of sour g$$$$s to me mate (on his part that is)
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:34 PM   #6
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G@mbit.....the tune is ruff!!!

Id hate to b in ur position JJ, it is one of those things mate at the end of the day....But its all bout the future now!!!
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:35 PM   #7
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$$$$ um jj mate!,. no matter what u do bro u will get playa hated, allow them"!
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:39 PM   #8
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yeah i know man, it sounds like sour g$$$$s to me too, but you'll get that with anything. at the end of the day, i just do what i do and what i do is make records.
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:41 PM   #9
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Gwuan JJ....!!!

Look out for no1 if u aint gettin support bro!!!
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:45 PM   #10
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thats cool.....its not a bad tune just i had heard loads of hype and then was like...hmmmm so most prob my own fault...biggup ya chest anyways jess holding down!!
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:45 PM   #11
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Well the stuff I have just been sent produced by Mr Slater...no comment...

All u mans who repeatedly cuss JJ are shallow fassi's who sound like a stuck record. And you mans who drop the old line about the hair - if half of u looked that good u might actually get girls older than 14. Standard.
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:50 PM   #12
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LOL.......gwuan missc!!!
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Old 13-05-2002, 02:54 PM   #13
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full marks JJ. your tune in the eyes of most has turnt into a classic. now it seems people who gave up the project or made it clear they had no further interest...now want to take the credit.

sad.
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Old 13-05-2002, 03:04 PM   #14
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^ Hit the nail on the head!!!
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Old 13-05-2002, 03:11 PM   #15
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lol, missc, what are you like!

well man, i dont know about that but to me its all hiding behind the computer $$$$... i saw miles not so long ago when i was playing in club 9 or one of those little clubs in london.. and he was acting all sweet with me... so youve gotta laugh.
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Old 13-05-2002, 03:15 PM   #16
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put a clip up bruva. for those that dont know.
i u see, got my copy of this track when it first came out and as a result can sit back and laugh assured of the fact that the original is in my hands.
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thats that sorted then.
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Didn't work on mine, so i removed the s from https (i.e. so it not a secure site - not that it matters) and then it worked

(just in case anyone else has probs)
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Old 13-05-2002, 04:06 PM   #20
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Dunno why you're gunning Miles Slater's tune, the ones I've heard him play on Flex sound boom.

So stop being so biased because your on a certain person's forum... ppl gunnin Miles on here...ppl gunnin Jess Jackson HARD on uptown...so really... no one's winning!

Sounds like a mix up and like people bringing up $$$$ that's probably been layed low for time. You're all doin' your own thing so keep it that way. Don't start insultin' people like Miles who ain't even here to defend themselves, don't make you the bigger man.

Grow upppp
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